So since amazon cut the affiliate Commissions it’s like the world has Discovered there are other affiliate Programs Luckily for you mark and i made most of Our affiliate revenue in the past few Years from these Other programs not for amazon’s so in Today’s episode we are going to sit down And show exactly what you should be Looking for in individual affair program Before you send them your precious track Let’s get started [Music] Hi everyone welcome back to the podcast I am with mark today because uh he’s my Partner in primary considering effort Marketing so how’s it going mark Um everything is good except for my hair Uh I had to cut it myself uh and you know Before the podcast i considered telling You to wear the authoria hacker You know i uh i kept one i i don’t Normally wear hats because For some reason my head just doesn’t Suit them uh but i I kept one of them just in case uh but i Thought You know for the benefit and comedy Value of All those people watching on youtube uh I thought You know why not let’s just go go for it
So got like a number four on the top two Of the side so It’s the shortest but it’s been in 15 Years yeah i mean health studies will Open here in budapest i’m kind of Waiting for a week or two and then i’ll Probably go Um but uh yeah i’d say i guess people Are gonna start getting haircuts again Now Which is good news but that’s not the Topic of the podcast and i’d like to get To the point Um so today basically you know we Realized that a lot of people are Looking outside of amazon because amazon Cut the rates and Um for many people is the first time They venture outside of amazon when it Comes to online marketing And i think uh it’s it’s quite it’s Gonna be quite tricky because What you will realize as you go and work On with other programs is that many of Them are absolute crap And so um there is a large degree of Filtering that you’re gonna have to Learn to do that you Don’t have to do with amazon and you Will probably regret a little bit of Your amazon life Maybe even come back to it to some Extent for sometimes because Uh there will be a lot of [ __ ] thrown at
You basically as you work with affiliate Programs So the goal of this episode is just to Try to uh help you Not make many of the mistakes that we’ve Made working with hundreds of affiliate Programs You know not getting paid uh not Converting not making any money etc Like there’s been a lot of issues and we Will share this with you so Uh let’s get started it is a list of 12 Tips so let’s jump with the first one And the first one is Um if you’re going to be promoting an fa Program you don’t want to be the only Affiliate promoting it because The chances are you have computers that Have been in the industry For much longer than you and if they Have not elected to promote the fa Program there’s a good reason for it And so you will end up usually promoting The same three to five affair programs In any given niche because they’re the Ones that are the most profitable And all sell the least crappy products Which is going to be a problem With high-paying affiliate programs as Well they will often have crappy Products Um so the best way i would recommend to Find Independent programs is to look at your
Competition now You can look at your competition when it Comes to roundup reviews and single Reviews and stuff and That works well and i found several that Way But another way i like to do that is Actually to sign up for their email list Because a lot of competitors might not Push Um might not push an fa program on their Site but they might push it on their Emails especially for the high paying Ones Info product courses etc and a lot of Money is there so i would actually Recommend you create a new gmail account Today And you go across all your computers Websites and you Uh you know sign up for all their Newsletters so that once a month you can Go through that email list And actually check what people have been Emailing and promoting it’s a great way To fish for new affiliate offers so That’s the first thing make sure that People are promoting it if they’re not I would be very very wary promoting your Product uh in any case anything to say About this Uh no just that don’t try and sort of Find Hidden affiliate programs that are going
To be wildly successful 99.99999 percent of the time it doesn’t Exist it’s like choosing a niche Don’t choose one that no one else is in Because people have already figured out Where the money is so just Follow what follow the money follow what Other people are doing But i think it’s a really important Point uh the next point though is To look at the sales page does it have a Good sales page because The vast majority of products the vast Majority of sales pages online Suck um and it’s difficult to make a Sales page right or for Many many years or so i’m sure if i made One right now it would be terrible Gail has gotten better at think at it Over the years thankfully But unfortunately most product creators Have uh Our product owners sales pages are not Very good you You know if they’re on something like Shopify it’s an e-commerce store or Something you can kind of Write get away with the some of their Sort of like default settings and Layouts generally they’re pretty good on On shopify and many other Platforms out there but in general it’s Something to look out for so Specifically
You want to look at does it have a good Design uh Does it hook you in does it does it have A good headline does it grab your Attention Immediately i guess it’s more in like Long-form sales pages Uh but even if it’s a a kind of E-commerce style Product you know does it have good Imagery is it does it have a good name As if are the features and benefit are The benefits highlighted um Is there good social proof on there look For testimonials and just any kind of Other trust signal Uh this can be you know how long they’ve Been Established uh where where they’ve been Featured Uh or even on like the the checkout cart Page it could be I was gonna say i would extend that to a Shopping cart yeah it could be it could Be these kind of the mastercard visa Amex type logos or you know 30-day Refund Guarantees seals and like there’s i Don’t think there’s a company that That has this like quality seal approval Thing Um that like licenses out people just go On google images and search for them and Stick them on because it’s been
Proven time and time you can actually You can actually pay for like some kind Of like audit and then they give you Like a real one but like obviously Consumers don’t know the difference so Yeah it doesn’t matter it’s been proven Time and time again that these kind of Signals really really make a difference So yeah Look out for for that um i would say uh I i would say as well that if Never mind you go into that clickbank Story No it’s like um i wanted to say as well Look at responsiveness Because there’s a lot of pages Especially for like all the products are Like not very well maintained Uh e-commerce that are they look Terrible mobile like the phones look Really tiny and need to like scroll Sideways to read and everything uh That’s gonna kill your conversions Especially uh if you’re doing b2c A lot of traffic is mobile probably like Two certs or something Um so yeah look at these pages you can Right click Inspect on chrome and then there’s a Little icon on the top Right where you see all that console Stuff etc and then you can Select mobile there and then you can Preview it as a mobile so you don’t even
Have to use your phone for that Uh you will be amazed and the thing is Like uh a network like clickbank for Example is full of absolute trash sales Pages Like people in like the default WordPress theme and like no branding no Whatsoever Just like a blog post and a buy button At the end and that’s the sales pages And then i have products something and This thing is for kind of like um Lower competition issues they might Actually like not rank too bad In the rankings for the products they Will not convert you will not make money From them Don’t bother and the thing is um I think it’s going to be interesting for A lot of people especially for like info Products because When you see the level of how [ __ ] These sales pages are you will see how Easy it would be for you to create an Info product and actually go in and make Like triple the money that you would Make as an affiliate Uh which we encourage a lot of age pro Members to do and um Yeah sales pages for many individual Fake programs are pretty [ __ ] I’m also going to extend that to the Products oh you have that later never Mind
So yeah be careful the pages and check Them on mobile I’ll take the next one as well which is Going to be network success metrics so Depending on the network you use they Will have different Uh metrics that they give you to try to Tell you how successful the offer is Right so On clickbank it’s going to be gravity Which is like number of sales in the Number of affiliates that made a sale in The last 24 hours i think I’m not sure about the 24 hour but like You know like not so long ago basically Uh on cj for example you might have the Average Uh basket value and you might have the Average commission And they give you epc as well but and It’s and this is where i would be very Wary it’s very It’s [ __ ] basically like the epc you See on cj for example is complete [ __ ] Um you’ll see like they tell you 200 epc Etc You wish um you would not make 200 A pc um so you got to be a little bit Careful because A lot of networks manipulate these Metrics to push Because the way it works is like the the The retailer makes a deal with the
Affiliate network And they say we’ll give you like one Percent of the value of the cell And will give four percent to your Affiliate let’s say something like that Um but like depending on how big or Small the retailer is Essentially the affiliate network has More bargaining power so maybe they’ll Get like as much as the affiliate for Some Products and maybe very little for some Big ones so that they can put the brand And they’re like oh look you can sign up For the target affiliate programs Through So whatever like not target in this case But like some big shop that will make The effort network look good And so what the affiliate network is Going to do is manipulate these metrics To try to make you push the step that Makes them the most money Um by essentially appealing you through These Uh sub metrics i’m not saying all of That networks like but a lot Of affiliate networks like on that so These metrics are a little bit Interesting To be honest another thing that you Probably want to do in this case is Actually talk to your affiliate manager Because you’ll probably get more
Reliable information than you will get Uh through the metrics you see on the Dashboard but they’re still useful Basically so They’re useful they’ll have a really a Lot of critical sense because They will show you amazing numbers and You’re gonna send traffic And you’re gonna make no money and You’ll be like what the [ __ ] is this and Uh you won’t be happy So i they are you should look at them But You should also understand how they are Used by networks to make you push the Traffic that they want you to push The next one yeah the next point is how Much commission does it actually pay So look at the price of the product look At the percentage commission they’re Offering and work out what you’re going To make Uh per sale now that’s the sort of Simple version of it i think everyone Listening to this probably knows how to Do that but there’s a few More nuances to this which i want to get Into um First of all if it’s a physical product Where the retailer the the seller has a Cost To provide that to produce and to Provide that item each time Generally your percentage commissions
Are going to be a lot lower you know We’ve we’ve seen Well some retailers go down to zero Percent at the moment in the middle of The the coronavirus thing but Generally you know you’re talking about Like single digit Percentages um because they just don’t Have that much margin to To to play with um the more Profitable a product is the more margin They have uh the more Profit they make the more margin they Have and the more they can offer higher Higher affiliate commissions Um so it’s definitely one thing to to Bear in mind and you know just bear in Mind bear in mind as well that the The commission can change over time uh Often though The more sales you make of a product the Higher percentage you make on all of Those sales So this is a common kind of tactic which Affiliate programs use to encourage People to really push them hard because You know If you make 10 sales a month you can Double your commission or whatever And that can really make a huge huge Difference to how much how much money You’re making from from that program and Really like kind of encourage people to To promote it heavily
Um so be on the lookout for for that if They have that scale like what you need To To hit in or what numbers you need to Hit in order to Get bumped up to the next commission Percentage level um That also means if they have that that They almost Certainly have a degree of flexibility In terms of how much Uh commission they’re gonna pay and and Negotiation is definitely An option even you know on day and day One with a With a program like that now info Products or Information products where there’s Courses things like that where there’s No cost to To produce an additional one unit of Of whatever it is uh they tend to tend To have Yeah much higher affiliate rates So they can be you know 20 30 40 50 60 75 70 i’ve even seen a hundred percent or More than a hundred percent Um in cases and we’ll get into some of The reasons as to how they can How that can work and why they can Afford to to to go over a hundred Percent but Generally information products software
Products as well um we’ll have much much Higher Uh commission rates so um something to Something sort of think of as well Finally have a look at uh recurring Elements as well A lot of uh products will have payment Plans or there’ll be like a membership Model subscriptions Software’s like software as a server is A big thing for this Look at whether you’re getting paid a Fixed fee to refer A new customer or you’re getting paid Every single month that they rebuild Because that will make a huge difference To to how it works Some some networks will cap your rebills Out at one year or like for specific They’re only Three months or a specific amount of Time so just Have a look at the finer details of of How much commission It actually pays and how long that lasts For as well don’t just look at The commission because all affiliate Programs will put earn up to 90 dollars Per sale or whatever it is But like you have to look at the the Details of what that actually means Uh to understand how much you can Potentially make here yeah because you Might make a dollar a month for 90
Months or something and it’s like Well it might take a while before you See your money however i like recurring Commissions to be honest Um the reason i like recurring Commissions is because Uh in terms of seo perspective Especially if you’re writing articles Etc it allows you to target much smaller Keyword and still snowball in revenue Because let’s say you write a review for Something that has a recording Commission of like I don’t know 10 bucks a month um and but There’s only like Maybe 300 searches for that review or Something like it’s not that big Um but the thing is like let’s say you Make okay 10 Let’s say you make 30 sales a month you Make 300 per month and I’m not going to account the churn for This but there will be a degree of chat Right but like Even with like this little keyboard you Can go like three hundred six hundred Nine hundred one thousand two hundred One thousand five hundred one thousand Eight hundred Minus the chance so it’s gonna be a Little bit a little bit lower than that For sure but What i’m saying is like you can actually Make a lot of money with tiny keywords
With recurring commissions and i I don’t i disagree with that because i Don’t think it’s the fact that it’s a Recurring Commission that means yeah it’s the high Payout it’s just That like the the net amount will be Higher you would make the same amount If you if they front loaded all the Commissions yeah credit cards for Example is a good example Like you can target small keywords in Credit cards because some of them will Pay you 400 bucks per cell and so like Then you don’t need that much volume um But it’s not gonna The thing is like it’s it’s one thing That people like they like this kind of Like mini snowball effect That you get from the growth that you Will kind of like get that feeling from Recurring commissions that Uh you won’t get as much from the rest It’s nice for your business to have Uh some kind of like stability in terms Of income yeah or you think it is but You have stability anyway if you’re if You’re ranking for keywords and you’re You’re ranked and you’re making one-off Sales each month So i don’t know like i’m not 100 sold on The Yeah it depends where you are Perspective some people like to say
Their security you know and it’s like You know like Because what happens is like let’s say a Google update happens and you think You have recurring sales you’re still Making money yeah but you would have Already have Had all that money up front anyway by The time it depends on the Honestly it’s kind of it depends so much On the industries i don’t think it Applies in that like i mean we’ve been In industries that pay recruiting we’ve Been industries that pay a lot Off and and they’re usually not the same Anyway so it’s like You don’t usually choose anyway so it’s Like yeah yeah not that bad Um let’s talk about the next one which Is is the product actually good and i Think there’s an Inverse correlation between how good a Product is and like how high the effect Commission is it’s like the hot crazy Scale in Your mother you know um and um And and so it’s quite difficult to find Something that will pay you well And uh is also a good product and to be Frank this is why amazon cut their Commission because they’re such a good Experience etc It’s not perfect but it’s pretty good And it’s like because they are so good
They know that they don’t need to pay as High to actually Get people to to go there but that Happens for Not just amazon but many industries when There’s a market leader when someone is Really good et cetera They will tend to have lower commissions Because they know they’re they’re owning The market anyway and they don’t need Your traffic as much Um so it’s quite tricky because you are Often end up promoting an underdog in Your industry And sometimes the underdog is really Competitive and really wants to do a Great product and It’s completely fine to promote them but Sometimes they’re just Riding the wave and just providing the Least value possible to your customers Which Well depending it’s like if you’re just Running for that keyword and people are Never gonna come back to your site Doesn’t matter too much Um but if you have an audience or if You’re trying to build something a Little bit bigger than that Uh then it’s it’s problematic and you Will often Uh kind of have to choose the lower Commission thing if you don’t want People to hate you
Um although pat finn is still here so i Don’t know It’s like never mind reference or Yeah yeah it’s a blue host reference Again we have that discussion I mean we in his defense you know we had This discussion I think four or five episodes ago and Yeah like actually realize We’re not so kind of like we’re we’re Maybe a bit like High and mighty on our uh uh perspective There We we haven’t been like 100 clean in That sense either On all of our sites um but yeah i do Think you you hit home and a really Interesting point though is that There’s a there’s really a lot of Products out there that pay Absurdly high commissions but they’re Absolutely terrible It’s because the only way they can get Make sales and make money is by paying These huge commissions to people Who will like sell their soul to to Refer people Um and you know let’s be honest that May actually be okay if you have a thin Affiliate site That’s just ranking for terms and Sending people to whatever affiliate Program If you have an audience uh an email list
People that trust you people follow you Then You know you’re probably not going to Want to do that You say that and tomorrow you’re going To email a jvzoo to the list or Something and Yeah um no that’s not happening guys Don’t unsubscribe please Um okay the next one is actually you Take the next one Yeah next one’s about um do you earn Commission on other products that people Buy Now this was a really popular element And part of what made amazon so good Right when people Would click on your affiliate link and Buy Or not even necessarily buy the product You’re recommending Uh anything else they bought on amazon While the cookie was still in duration You get commission on which was great Because people love buying [ __ ] on Amazon The same is true for most other Affiliate programs most of them Will if you refer someone to um You know buy one of their products or to Their the website You’ll the visitor will get cookied and If you buy other stuff Uh you’ll if they buy other stuff you
Will get commission from that as well Most of the time not all pro not all Companies not all affiliate programs Work like that So again check the details as well uh This is not only What they buy at that time but a lot of Companies will actually offer you Uh like lifetime commission on Everything Someone buy so once you’ve referred Someone into their is their product in Their ecosystem You can earn a recurring or not Recurring but a commission every time They make another purchase of Of things um with info products This is something you have to kind of be Aware of the reverse can sometimes Happen Where you’ll get paid on the first thing That people buy Often quite handsomely but you won’t Make any money on the upsells So if they’re they’re trying to like Upsell a higher ticket product Uh or in future things that the people Buy um so the different models different Companies run in In different ways generally if you’re Making you know 100 commission on the Price of the The product you’re probably not going to Make any they’re probably not going to
Give you any commission on the upsell Because That’s where they make all their money So try and kind of Understand what they’re what they’re Trying to do there and yeah definitely Look at How how they handle lifetime commissions Because it’s not something That’s always kind of published Publicized on the the affiliate sales Page Yeah um the next one is how long does The cookie last Um so obviously if you’ve been doing Amazon for a long time you’re used to This 24 hour cookie which is really not That long Um but hasn’t been a handicap for a lot Of people to make good money right Um then on the other side of thing There’s people that be like lifetime Cookie And that’s also [ __ ] because um Actually the average lifespan Of more than 50 of cookies don’t last More than 30 days because Um basically people lose them they’re Not logged in they’re not on their own Incognito Browsers like um safari especially from Apple which is what everyone on an Iphone uses for example Has massively been pushing privacy
Essentially as a product feature because Apple makes money from selling Computers phones ipads etc so they don’t Need your Data from uh ads etc so they’re like They They’re basically saying well you’re Paying us a bunch of money but we don’t Sell your data We will erase all these third-party Cookies where you will not be retargeted On safari etc etc And so they’ve been pushing for privacy A lot and as a result firefox has been Following In this pass and then even chrome has to Be a little bit Tighter so as time passes essentially Keeping cookies Is harder it’s it’s not that right it’s Still working it’s just like They’re being more and more restrictive Basically so you um So having a short cookie is a bit cheat Having a really long cookie is also Not that useful usually 30 days Something that we’re looking at Um especially the company is running Retargeting because What you can do is you can send traffic To that site and Very often for like good companies they Will show ads to the people that show The interest on the website
And if people click on that and buy you St they still have your cookie And you will still get paid a commission Which means that it will increase Conversion rate And will like increase the exposure of That person to the product And they will come back and buy later Which is when longer cookies kind of Make sense because Otherwise most people will just go on The site once and not buy maybe some Will Will come back and buy but the Retargeting together with longer cookie Is really what makes it Uh makes sense so um basically i would Say Try to go for something that’s one to Two months cookie don’t get it too Excited by a lifetime cookie because Most of them will disappear And then well 24 hours on amazon they Can’t afford it because they convert so Well so That’s basically it uh that’s that’s it On cookie Also on cookies you got to think about Are they first touch or last touch Now those are two different attribution Models for who to credit when a sell Sell comes in so imagine there’s two People That uh both have affiliate links two
Websites And a user goes through both clicks on One website clicks on the affiliate Links list and the other clicks on the Affiliate link Who should get paid in that situation Well the affiliate program will have Rules to define this Uh first touch is the first person who Cookied A user will get attributed with the sale Last touch the last person surprisingly Enough But it makes a big difference for for How you depending on what Type of site you have and for how well That’s going to do So first touch is better if you have an Audience and you’re promoting something That people Don’t know about so if i’m introducing Someone to a new Product then ideally i would have a First touch cookie because Maybe i’m introducing them they’re not Buying right away They’re checking out maybe they read Some more reviews learn Read up on on the product read up on the The industry a bit before making their Purchase decision And as they’re doing that they have Options to click on other affiliate Links
And in a first first touch cookie Situation I’m going to get credit for that which Is great last touch on the other hand Is much better if you are sniping search Terms so if you’re ranking for Such and such review or any kind of Roundup review you know Best xy type type type uh terms Then if you have a last touch Attribution model then the person who’s Introduced the person to the product Built the trust made that recommendation Initially they get nothing they get Nothing You’re you as the person who they’ve Just searched for let’s just double Check that it’s okay Find your review click the link you get The the commission in that case so Yeah have a look at attribution models It can make a big difference the other Thing is Um last touch opens the door To the affiliate program doing uh some More sort of shady stuff I’ve seen uh instances where it’s Targeted Yeah well sales pages will actually have Their own affiliate links on there In some situations we’re targeting us Too Retargeting ads that have affiliate Affiliate links
Rather that like they’re all the Companies own affiliate links to their Own product So they raise your cookie yeah and then You don’t get paid basically Yeah so it doesn’t happen very often Uh but it’s just something to to sort of Be on the lookout for as well Yep and and and people do do that right It does happen Uh it’s not something that’s like you Will hear in the nightmaster so i’ve Seen that multiple times Uh it’s basically like they you require Call traffic from you for free They retarget them i mean not for free Because they’ll pay you people who check Out right away maybe Uh although yeah people do that as well The link to the checkout sometimes is an Affiliate link as well Yeah um and they just like essentially Re-cookie everyone and they pay you Nothing Um so this kind of stuff happens as you Work with like smaller shadier companies Um you know you complain about amazon Wait till you see this kind of stuff Um that is um let’s actually talk about Uh integrity etc because i think it goes Well together Um i’ll let you take this one as well Because you prepared it yeah so You want to look at does the business
Have an integrity i mean we talked about Promoting good products and bad products Is it kind of scammy If if they are a shady fly-by-night Operation That you know locks people into Recurring subscriptions that they can’t Get out of cells shady products that Don’t work Uh you know sugar pills for a diet or Whatever These kind of companies will tend to Scam their affiliates as well Uh so if is that someone you really want To be doing Business with you have to ask yourself Um a Very famous marketer i’m not gonna name His his name It rhymes with ry mopez though He you’ve probably seen his instagram Adverts um for his for his courses but Friend of mine Uh promoted one of his courses which was Actually good not all those girls are Bad which is actually good As an affiliate and they’re just really Really bad at paying out you know Randomly they’ll just say oh this this Product this purchase didn’t qualify so We’re discounting it and then They won’t get paid they won’t pay their Affiliates for like three months and Then
You know after seven emails they’ll Finally do it Um a couple episodes ago we had miles Beckler on the show and he was having to Go at Hostgator bluehost and the company Behind Those hosting companies for Uh like just discounting loads and loads Of affiliate uh Commissions for just random reasons it Seems like they just skim a lot of Commissions Um or you know cut a lot of uh or Disqualify rather A lot of of sales so that they make more Profit so you make less money Um yeah you really got to be careful With this Uh as i said ask yourself do you want to Get into business with this type of Company Because ultimately they can just not pay You and there’s very little you can do About it at the end of the day Uh so yeah keep that in mind i think There’s another type of companies as Well and that’s the companies that have An affair program have good intentions But dedicate absolutely no resources to It and then Um just will end up not paying you Because they’re just not paying Attention
Uh or because it’s like the fifth job of Like the The intern guy that manages that etc Happened for us actually i checked one Of our Programs that i know is doing that and They didn’t approve our commission since January So that gives you an idea uh all this Stuff is spending and we’re not gonna Get paid for a while Um and so companies will do that and It’s like they will eventually pay you But you will have to follow up with them Most of the time Yeah most of the time it’s like they’re You’ll have to follow up with them a lot And You have no idea when they will pay you They will pay you three months after They said they would pay you Um so it’s like they don’t intend to Scam You but because you’re so low on their Priority list You they’re just like yeah you get very Little attention especially Like some companies that started Affiliate programs as well we’ve seen That at the beginning where they were Not it was not in place and there was no Process etc And i mean i’m not gonna name names but There’s several
That we’ve been working with even Recently that have been working that way And uh and if you are tight on cash flow If you need this money to invest in your Site etc That could be a problem or if you need This money to pay salaries and so on Like Yeah relying on these companies it’s Putting you at risk despite them not Intending Any harm to you in the first place and Then seeming to be respectable initially So another Interesting thing that i i saw recently Is There was an affiliate who who wrote Like a negative review it was Totally honest and accurate but it was a Negative review And the the company actually uh like Threatened legal action for like slander And On all this kind of stuff and because it Was a bit of a scammy product at the end Of the day i think Uh so you just got to be again who are You getting into bed with when you’re You’re you’re starting an affiliate Relationship um if it’s someone If it’s someone you don’t think you can Trust you know 100 Then there’s a chance that something Like this can can kind of happen so be
Careful out there Yeah uh do you want to take the next one Yeah so the The next one let’s talk about like how Do they work with international traffic So yeah most most products you’re out There promoting most people listening to It’s probably going to be Focused on on us or kind of English-speaking world just by the fact That we’re english but it’s the biggest Market right for For affiliate market affiliate marketers Out there It’s interesting though because some Products Specif more often physical products but It can be Some info products and stuff as well but Some products are not available In every country in the world so what Does that company Do what does the vendor do when they get A visitor from Nigeria or south sudan or somewhere like This where they they don’t ship to And they they don’t want to deal with Because they have so much fraud there or Whatever Um and it’s not just not necessarily Like third world countries but it can be You know Germany they don’t ship to germany they Only ship to us and canada or something
Like that Um you have to be careful you have to Check what they do with this traffic Because sometimes it can just be like Sorry We don’t sell it so we can’t ship to you Sign up to our mailing list or whatever And and that’s fine sometimes though They can Geo redirect this traffic to some some Other offer to some other company or Somewhere else that they’re making money From all we’ve had a situation where An affiliate uh it was fine you know all Legit looked good for us Traffic uh canada and australia as well Um but any anyone out anyone else They would redirect them to some really Scammy offer For like uh i win an iphone kind of Thing And it’s born as well we had phone Redirects On some on some offers uh that was a Problem Yeah so again goes back to like the Integrity thing we’re saying in the Previous point but you just have to be Really careful Um and you know check if you have a vpn Uh Log in from different countries see Where they’re see where they’re sending People
Um some pretty big affiliate networks do That too fya It’s like affiliate networks need to be Very careful it’s kind of like part of The optimization Uh they will just take your drunk Traffic what they call it because they Can’t Like and you will get paid anything by The way it’s like that guy gets to if Someone gets to that point offer Network but you don’t even get paid um So it’s like you’ve got to be careful And yeah a lot of um The shady affiliate networks you you Understand what i mean when you log on The affiliate dashboard You know it’s a shady effort network When you you see the dashboard You don’t know it um they do that a lot So i recommend you use a vpn and you Click on your affiliate links Uh and this way you’ll be able to see Where they take that traffic And you might be surprised sometimes um So what you what you can do by the way To avoid that let’s say you want to Promote an offer but they do this kind Of shady redirect and there’s no other Way to promote the offer You need to set up your own redirects Jyp redirect so you can use something Like clickmagick for example Where you can set the countries and you
Can set the url it sends people too You know one thing let’s say you don’t Have a product maybe you can send people To an opt-in Uh page for you for your email list for Example and you can like capture emails Or something like that you can kind of Like Make that junk traffic a lot cleaner and Avoid the drama because You know when you get a lot of traffic Like people would then start posting the Screenshots on reddit and stuff like That and like complain on forums Uh add you to this list of scam websites That google uses to actually For their algorithms and so on and you Gotta be really careful because A lot of people be like well i don’t Care like traffic from this country etc If you get caught doing that uh and you Have enough traffic and you get enough Traction you will get called out and you Will pay for it in one way or another So yeah be careful basically we had a i Don’t think it was an affiliate Everything was a type of ad Network we had that was putting putting Certain like scammy offers on and Ended up um our whole site Did that as well uh a fishing uh warning On it um for for a few days which was Like like webmasters console would like Pop it up
It’s like they actually google picks it Up right so uh i think it’s based on That’s right i think we had it like Semi-automated and someone bought a Banner and like Uh it was it was shitty yeah don’t do it Uh so the next point is around how fast You get paid Uh now affiliates often uh Affiliate programs often take take quite A while to pay out the better ones will Pay you out in Seven to fourteen days depending on uh What it is they’re selling Remember if it’s an info product if they Have any kind of refund policy Usually the commissions won’t sort of Kick in until till after them After then uh a lot of smaller programs Will just pay you out Manually once a month or even less so if They’re not really on top Of things look for automated payouts as Well it just makes things easier and it You avoid getting into situations where Uh they haven’t paid you for months and You’re trying to chase it up and you Know it can be can be A bit of an issue i know for people who Are You sending paid traffic to affiliate Programs this is a huge huge problem That they have to like you know can Really affect their cash flow and stuff
So they have to be really Really careful about that um but yeah Uh that’s that’s that’s something to Sort of bear in mind the other Other thing as well is like how do you Get paid uh So paypal is a very very common Um uh like payout method especially for Like in the digital marketing space that We’re in Because everyone has paypal uh obviously Bank transfer is very common as well Um if you’re using if you’re getting Paid from like a different country Say you’re in the uk and you’re getting Paid dollars make sure to use something Like transferwise So you can receive foreign currency um At a better exchange rate and move Around Um we used to have to have to use this When we Sold on like amazon canada and stuff Like that oh yeah so it’s It’s worth definitely worth keeping an Eye on on that as well A lot of companies now a lot of Affiliate networks will pay you out via Payoneer I think share sale is a big one for this Um It’s one of the payoneer basically Creates deals with these Affiliate networks where you can get
Paid often cheaper so Without any fees directly to your Payoneer account So then payoneer will pay the affiliate Program or Some money a kickback for them to do That knowing that they’ll make some Money off of you in the fees that they Charge when you spend or withdraw or Whatever Uh so just look at where you’re kind of Bleeding money with with this whole Process as well Um and and and try to kind of minimize That as as much as possible Wherever you go is there anything people Need to be worried about in terms of Like the The forms like non-us resident stuff etc You have to Yeah yeah so i mean Any us-based affiliate program us Company will make you Uh fill in uh one of these kind of w9 or W8 Type forms this is used to identify Who who they’re actually transacting With so are you A resident of the us are you a company Somewhere else like where are you paying Your taxes They need to know that because if they Don’t have that then Uh legally they’re obliged to withhold a
Certain percentage of the money even if They do have some of that information If you’re like not a business uh they’re Still legally with Uh required to withhold a certain Percentage but it’s just less of a Percentage This is why if you ever fail to fill in Your tax form On the tax survey that amazon does Amazon will actually scalp 30 percent of Your commission i mean they’re paying it To the government But uh you you lose that money there’s No way to get it back Retrospectively uh so make sure most Affiliate programs affiliate networks Will make you fill this in Either as you sign up or the first time You get paid As well and actually on that point if You’re dealing with a european company Uh We we promote surfer seo they’re based In poland and poland has this crazy law That you need to have this Like tax residency certificate Certificate even within the eu for For your company so i’d never even heard Of it before but we had to go and Get this piece of paperwork from the Government just so we can get paid out Um and in other countries having like Hungary
Romania eastern europe a lot they’re Very very strict on their invoicing Process so they can’t They won’t just send you the money you Have to create an invoice it has to have Their vat info their Exact address all the details have to be Perfect And then you have to send that invoice To them before they will pay you Um it’s it’s just their their local Rules it’s how The government requires them to do Business so you have to Kind of you know deal with that in Certain circumstances Yeah so any last tricks for people Anything else that you want to say Before we close it No i think we covered a lot here well One thing i did not cover though is that People Should click the like button there on Youtube subscribe If they are if they’re there as well and You can also check it out On you check the podcast out sorry on The audio platform so like spotify Uh itunes uh soundcloud and google Podcast if you want And if you enjoy this podcast we’ll see You next week with another episode we Hope you enjoyed this one Have a good week see you next monday bye